求助：Hy8.0如何導出HSPICE MODEL

sulala

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$ }# j- a" Y: m- m% i( @如題，小弟是Hy8.0的初學者，目前正學習如何使用hyperlynx仿真傳輸線模型，如附圖所示：
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, t5 X( w  b- c想請教高手們可否教教在下如何將我的模型導出成W-elemnet的netlist呢?
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如果有詳解教學更是感激不盡阿
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sulala

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已解決，不過只有一半，導出的W-element是lossless，為何在下的export spice netlist沒有其他選項?

附圖說明
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honejing

為何要導出 SPICE net list 呢？ HL8 不是可以調用 SPICE，直接跑就有結果了。

sulala

/ b2 @8 h: p2 S3 b9 A8 R回樓上大大，因為在下主要使用的模擬軟體還是HSPICE，所以目前正在找尋生成W-element的方法。
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小弟初學還不太熟悉軟體，不過定義了節點名稱以後就可以導出Netlist，但是如何生成有Loss的W-element還有請高手指教
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Two Types of Netlist Output - Uncoupled and Coupled

The files generated by the HyperLynx SPICE writer come in two "flavors", depending on whether or not crosstalk is enabled in BoardSim/LineSim when you generate the netlist:

    Uncoupled, in which no coupling is modeled, and all transmission lines are modeled with the standard SPICE lossless "T" element
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, F: Z0 n: v' D1 m7 y! Z    Coupled, in which coupling is included and all coupled transmission lines are modeled with the HSPICE coupled, lossy "W" element
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Specifically, the choice between uncoupled and coupled output is made automatically by the SPICE Writer, as follows:
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    If you are running BoardSim, and you have crosstalk enabled, coupled output is generated; if crosstalk is disabled, uncoupled output is generated
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    If you are running LineSim, and you have coupling anywhere in your schematic, coupled output is generated; if there is no coupling in your schematic, uncoupled output is generated
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, z$ H3 e) G- l$ J. D' Z+ c0 K但是小弟目前找不到如何選擇coupled netlist output的方法

懇請大俠相救

honejing

1. ) 在建 LineSim sechematic 時，要點選 [ Enable Lossy Simulation] icon，就可以生成 W-Element。
例如：
' C% k! V0 a) ]  L# i$ J2 l****  Transmission line models ***********************
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.MODEL Cond_000 W MODELTYPE=RLGC N=2
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* Co  (F/m)
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+ 7.31628e-011  
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* Ro (Ohm/m)
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+ 0  
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+ -1.13036e-012  7.93923e-012  

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. ^) C0 y1 C+ E' p- M% `% J2.) 只要你在 LineSim 有設定 Couple pair, 那導出來的應該就是 Couple output netlist.
例：
* Output from HyperLynx SPICE Writer
* Created by K on Date: Sunday Sep. 4,2011   Time: 19:59:31
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* Design file: UNNAMED0.TLN
* Special Settings: Coupled
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) }3 f* s  {  n) E. N1 V2 H$ F3. ) 可以直接設定你的 HSPICE 的執行檔連結，在Interactive simulation 時選HSPICE，就可以直接調用
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sulala

感謝這位大俠相助，小弟成功提取SPICE netlist了!!
有您熱心助人真是我們的福音阿

davidwangwf

sulala 发表于 2011-9-5 01:21
感謝這位大俠相助，小弟成功提取SPICE netlist了!!
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6 R3 X% ?2 U% W. e6 O' F各位神啊····怎样添加节点？？

l888888h

sulala 发表于 2011-9-5 01:21
' _  p) p- M$ d, L感謝這位大俠相助，小弟成功提取SPICE netlist了!!
有您熱心助人真是我們的福音阿

你那个导出来的SPICE  netlist在hspice中可以仿真吗、？？可否给我教程下！

yenchi

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